Legislature(2003 - 2004)

04/07/2003 01:03 PM Senate HES

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              SB 104-REPEAL CHARTER SCHOOL GRANTS                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR FRED DYSON announced SB 104  to be up for consideration. He                                                               
told members  in preparing this legislation  for charter schools,                                                               
he asked if federal funding was  assured and when it would start.                                                               
The answer he got was  almost certainly, but [DEED] wouldn't know                                                               
until  mid-summer. He  wondered if  the Legislature  should delay                                                               
passing this bill  until it is sure of funding  and the answer he                                                               
got back  today was that the  governor would prefer that  it pass                                                               
with   contingency  language.   He  prepared   draft  contingency                                                               
language saying  this bill only  goes into effect if  the federal                                                               
government agreement happens.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  EDDY JEANS,  Department of  Education and  Early Development                                                               
(DEED), explained  that this legislation  would repeal  the state                                                               
grants  for  start-up  funds  for charter  schools.  It  was  his                                                               
understanding  that one  of the  reasons the  state started  down                                                               
that  road  was  because  of minimal  federal  support  to  start                                                               
charter  schools.  He  has  a  chart that  shows  the  state  was                                                               
granting charter  schools $140,000 to $180,000  in federal funds.                                                               
The Legislature passed  the state program that  consisted of $500                                                               
per student in addition to  the federal grants. The highest total                                                               
for  the two  grants combined  for  any of  the state's  original                                                               
charter schools  was $478,000  - a  family partnership  school in                                                               
Anchorage.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He  said  the   department  had  a  dialogue   with  the  federal                                                               
government and  talked with the  director of charter  schools and                                                               
floated a  proposal that gave  charter schools $150,000  per year                                                               
for the first  four years with a $45,000 grant  in the fifth year                                                               
for a  total of $495,000.  That would easily exceed  the combined                                                               
federal   and  state   grant  that   school  districts   received                                                               
previously. However, there is no  signed grant agreement yet, and                                                               
the application is due April  28. DEED should know by mid-to-late                                                               
June whether  or not those  funds are coming. The  charter school                                                               
coordinator received an e-mail from  the director, Dean Kern, who                                                               
said he liked the proposal, but  DEED still has to go through the                                                               
grant application process.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN moved to adopt conceptual amendment number 1.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS objected for discussion  purposes. She asked if the                                                               
Legislature  would evaluate  the federal  funds it  would receive                                                               
each year or just the first year.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS replied  that he understands that  this amendment would                                                               
delay  the repeal  of the  state charter  school grant  until the                                                               
department knows  whether or not  it has secured  federal funding                                                               
this summer.  The effective date of  the bill as it  is currently                                                               
written is  July 1, 2004.  DEED currently has a  $158,000 request                                                               
in this year's budget, which  will make all charter schools whole                                                               
under  this  state  program.  He  thought  that  Senator  Dyson's                                                               
concern  was if  the  state  doesn't get  the  funding, then  the                                                               
repeal date would become July 1,  2004 and it would just fall off                                                               
the books. If  the state secures the federal funds  this year, he                                                               
understands  that the  state grant  would come  off the  books in                                                               
July 1, 2004.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON said the fundamental  question that Senator Guess was                                                               
asking  is what  happens  if the  federal funds  go  away in  the                                                               
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS replied  that at that point the  Legislature would have                                                               
to determine whether it wanted  to initiate a state grant program                                                               
again.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked what the length of the federal commitment is.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS replied  five years  and DEED  will be  requesting $10                                                               
million in federal start up grants.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS  commented that  he had  answered her  question and                                                               
then asked whether he had thought  about putting a sunset of five                                                               
years on  the repeal. She  was concerned about what  would happen                                                               
if the federal  funds and the start up funds  for charter schools                                                               
both go away.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS replied  that he did not have any  discussions with the                                                               
administration about a sunset date.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON added  that Senators Guess and  Davis had discussions                                                               
with him about a possible task  force to take a much broader look                                                               
at the  whole charter school  business. He thought this  would be                                                               
one of the  things they would look at, but  he, personally, would                                                               
not recommend a sunset right now.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN moved to report  CSSB 104(HES) from committee with                                                               
individual recommendations and attached  fiscal notes. There were                                                               
no objections and it was so ordered.                                                                                            

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